Wednesday, March 19, 2008
Mate of CCSO's skipper of USS Willie outs Commisioner Berry as consigliere to drug courier!
http://www.tribune-georgian.com/articles/2008/03/19/opinion/letters/4letter3.19.txt
As you can see, the Thuggies are attacking on all fronts.
Well, almost all fronts. They seem to be a little timid about attacking Tommy Gregory. Does he know where too damned many bones are buried?
I'm sure BTW and MaryAnn are getting ready to turn the machine loose on Rich Gamble any time now.
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I was just thinking about what this letter likely portends.
In next week's T&G, you will see multiple ghost written letters from Thuggies who will claim to be deeply shocked by Berry - an attorney - representing a guy accused of running drugs.
Now, at some point in the not too distant future, BTW's puppet in Berry's district - who has no doubt already been chosen - will be given the green light to announce his candidacy for Berry's seat, citing his association with drug runners as the final straw that caused him to decide - independently, of course - to oppose the Godless Arab, and possible Islamist, Steve Berry.
I would not be surprised to see our famous Christian bigot friend, Church Lady, heavily invovled in the puppet's campaign as minister of anti-non-white European propaganda.
I hear that they have recruited Jimmy Coffel. He curently serves on the School Board. Instead of running for re-election, he will instead run against Steve Berry. Mary Ann will probably be on his campaign committee. The tribe has decided not to attack Tommy. They all insist that he is a Steve Berry puppet. So they would much rather pull the lever for Gamble than Tommy. Not that they are excited about Gamble, they just don't want Steve, I mean Tommy.
So what you are saying is, it's ok for someone to run against Mr. Smith for Sheriff but not against Mr. Berry for his seat?
No, anyone can plunk down his fee (or the fee money that has been given to him) and run.
What I am saying is that Berry, among the five commissioners, is far and away the most qualified and the most effective of the bunch.
Imagine the scene if BTW puts yet another puppet on the commission.
In January of '09, you would have puppet Coffel in Berry's old chair. To his left would be puppetette, Chuckie Sears, then Preston Rhodes,who would immediately fall in line with Smith, then the lone and largely silenced ranger, Mrs. Zell, and the old faithful Smith hack, Rainer - and Smith still in office.
Hell, if that happens, we might as well rename the county "Williesburg."
I'm saying that given Mr. Berry's performance,it would not bother me a bit to see him go back in unopposed.
Name some things beside things that are Smith related that he has for this county please.
If you will take a moment, gather your thoughts, then restate them in unambiguous, Standard American English, I shall be happy to respond.
Even if Berry has not done a single thing other than the stand he has taken against Smith's misfeasance and malfeasance, he should be voted back in for another term.
Well he utilized taxpayers money to bail out FNB. That was a major, major for his client.
He orchestrated the deal with the county to purchase land from FNB to be utilized as soccer fields, that he could NOT get a clear deed for because of all the liens.
He authorized the JDA to get milliions of dollars in bond money, but can't explain where the money has been spent.
Currently, he has orchestrated a deal to award a one million dollar contract with no RFP or bid process for Colerain.
What amazes me about you is.....
You are truly an astute individual, but you fail to recognize any of the things done by Berry. All of which will be repaid by the taxpayers of Camden County. But Smith unwisely uses seize asset (taxpayers not responsible for repayment) and you are all over it.
I hope this gets printed.
That's exactly right: he should be voted back in on the basis of keeping BTW from running barefoot through another $2,000,000 in REQUESTED budget and probably a third million in overrruns,as usual,IF NOTHING ELSE.
Tell me: what has any other commissioner - no, all of them combined - done in the last year that was more valuable to the citizens of this county than finally reigning in Bill Smith!
We're waiting!
that whole FNB thing must have happened during the 9 months I was either in the hospital or rehab in Jax. I must confess, I'm not up on that deal.
I agree the JDA is a joke and should either get a real director with instruction to actaully seek out new industry, or it should be abolished. But how did Berry manage, with his one vote , to be totally repsonsible for authorizing it year after year?
One million dollars, relative to the entire Colerain project, is, of course just a piss in the bucket, but I would be glad to hear more details - especially who the contractor is and the circumstances.
Your comment would easily have made the cut without your left-handed recognition of my "astuteness," but thank you - I agree!
The property purchased from FNB is now the soccer complex. If you will go out one Sat. morning, I think you will find it difficult to call it anything but a very wise investment for our county recreation program.
This FNB bail out has come up before. Was this during the Bill Davis reign or David Moffet? I wonder what David is up to since he got booted from FNB?
I think you missed the point. I never said the area was NOT NICE for a soccer complex. I was addressing the original question of "Name some things beside things that are Smith related that he has for this county please."
How could you be sure that it was a wise decision, when the taxpayers of Camden are responsible for the liens attached to the property.
That same complex could have been located anywhere in Camden. Why did it have to be on land previously owned by FNB with liens attached?
Don't get me wrong!! In my opinion all of the things done by Smith that have been brought forward are WRONG!!! BUT!!!! I, as a taxpayer am NOT responsible for the repayment of SEIZED ASSET FUNDS. However, I am responsible for paying for the land AND liens of the above mentioned property. I am responsible for every bond issued via the JDA.
Well let me rephrase that because the 35 million dollar bond for the Old Wal-Mart shopping centers first payment isn't until July
2050; I may or may not be reponsible for paying that.....
Berry/Attorney, has sat through all of this. I am NOT saying he is solely responsible, but his educational background suggest/recommends that he should have been more diligent with the taxpayers money.
The one million dollars is for a study. This same contractor has a open invitation with the County. The company has done at least 8 studies that I know of WITHOUT A BID PROCESS. Why not utilize a local company? The Chambers motto is "KEEP IT IN CAMDEN" I don't want to post the companies name because they are the receiver. They did NOT award the contract to themselves.
I think the Colerain project includes both St. Marys and Kingsland, so ask the City Councilors or the Mayors of those municipalities for the name of this contractor. I mention all of this to expound on your point that Berry can't do all of this by himself. SCHEMES of this magnitude to defraud taxpayers take a cohesive effort.
My opinion - Look at Berry through the same magnifying glass that Smith is being viewed through.
David Moffet.....
Okay, insofar as you have not really enlightend us who do not have our grasp of the details, let me make sopme assumptions. This "FNB," which I'm guessing stands for First National Bank, was apparently about to go out of business and would have had it not been for the infusion of cash from the sale of the current soccer complex land. Is that what you're saying?
Did the sale save the FNB - is it still around? Is that the one where Berry once had his office upstairs?
Was there something improper about Berry voting on the purchase? Was he a partner in the bank, or their attorney, or what?
Purchasing property with unsatisfied liens on it is a tad unusual, but was the sale price of the property discounted by an amount equal to the value of the liens?
You're going to have to give us answers before we can all make an informed decision on this.
And what is the story on the no bid contract for Colerain Road? Who is the contractor? Relationship to Berry? Why is Berry's one vote responsible? What are the stated reasons for letting the contract with no bid, and so on?
Weird .. my last comment was actually posted BEFORE the one immediately above it. Go figure.
One certainly does not need a magnifying glass to discern the egregious, arrognat, in-you-face, mis and malfeasance of Bill Smith in office. Cheap Walmart readiong glasses and subscription to the GTU and T&G (at least while they had an editor with cajones)do the trick for me.
I remeber now - the contractor is that outfit from Brunswick, I'll think of their name in a minute.
As to local contractors, there is only one - Stan Smith's outfiut htat has arisen from the ashes of the now defunct Underground Contractors. A, I'm not sure that Stan's scaled down (and apparently flourishing) operation is doing road projects anymore, and B, given the fiasco of the Hwy 40 project, his chances of getting a county road work contract again would seem slim to none.
How does awarding this contract necessarily "defraud" taxpayers? Given that the county keeps going back to them, they apparently do good work, and, I assume, competitively.
What are the details on the supposed contravening of the normal bid process in this particualr case?
Kingsland did not allowed this prospal to be placed on its agenda. Because the City of Kingsland believes in doing business according the to governing laws of the municipality.
Details, details, my kingdom for some details!
I heard my supervisors talking about this. Our company would like to bid on things like this. The company that was given the contractS - Moreland & Altibolli. I am sure I spelled the last part wrong, but that's how it is pronounced.
It's Moreland, Altobelli, and Associates, headquartered in Norcross, GA.
I'll post the link at the bottom of this post (on the blue page) for easy access. Look at the services they perform. I'm guessing you work for our local
surveyors over going into Shadowlawn. Do you guys have the in-house expertise for this?
The county purchased the property. It was a portion of the par 3 golf course that was about to be or had been foreclosed upon. The "liens" were the mortgage held by the bank and those liens were cancelled when the county bought the property.
Again, go out there one Sat. morning and see if you don't agree it was a good purchase.
And, unfortunately, you are mistaken about the taxpayers not having be pay some of the mis-used seized assets. Call Mike Fender and he can fill you in completely but I am personally aware of around $26,000.00 that had to be repaid by the general fund because it was improperly spent.
The JDA is about as useless as tits on a bull. Nuff said.
Could that purchase legitimately be described as having "saved" the bank?
Ok, you are aware of $26,000. Are you aware of the $400,000 that had to be repaid a few years ago because the county commission spent it illegaly when they controlled the asset fund?
No, but why don't you tell us about it?
By the way, the ideal controller of the drug money would be the new, HIRED chief of the Camden County Police Department I championed over in the cess pool.
The county bought a road grader and maybe some other equipment. If you are trying to equate that with the untold thousands that Smith spent illegally, then you are not even in the ball park.
This is getting good.....
Thanks Jay
Anonymous said...
The county bought a road grader and maybe some other equipment. If you are trying to equate that with the untold thousands that Smith spent illegally, then you are not even in the ball park.
March 20, 2008 2:30 PM
So, I take it that when they had control of the drug money, the county dipped into the funds for $400,000 for a road scraper, etc, then got thier hands slapped by the feds and had to replace the money back into the fund?
Good for the feds - they did exactly what they should have done - and shame on the county commission.
While it was still unlawful, I agree tha the commisions action was qualitatively different than Smith's crap.
Anonymous said...
This is getting good.....
Thanks Jay
March 20, 2008 3:45 PM
You're very welcome, and THANK YOU for stopping by. Come again!
Jay said:
If you will take a moment, gather your thoughts, then restate them in unambiguous, Standard American English, I shall be happy to respond.
Don't you mean:
If you will take a moment to gather your thoughts and restate them in unambiguous Standard American English, I shall be happy to respond.
You have way too many comma splices.
Nice try. Your point would be valid, were it expository writing.
However, I was speaking directly to the commenter. It was dialogue.
Ergo, I punctuated it in the manner that would EXACTLY reflect the manner in which I would have delivered it orally.
Try reading it your way and tell me if that sounds like dialogue to you.
Jay asked you to tell us all about it, instead you're giving sound bytes.
"The county purchased the property. It was a portion of the par 3 golf course that was about to be or had been foreclosed upon. The "liens" were the mortgage held by the bank and those liens were cancelled when the county bought the property."
Who was the Attorney for the owner of Par 3 Golf Course? Who represented FNB in prior land transaction of this particular property? Where exactly are the property lines? Was an appraisal done of the ENTIRE property before the transaction? What type of DEED did the County acquire at closing of transaction? In the Commisioners voting process leading to this transaction how did each Commissioner vote? If the County had NOT purchased the property at the SPECIFIC time that this transaction took place; what effect would this have had on the owner/FNB.
I think Jay wants you to answer those type of particulars and so do the taxpayers of Camden County.
I don't recall all those details from so long ago. Why don't you do the research and post it for us.
I do recall the $400,000.00 or so spent on the USS Willie, for the training for Godley, Coffel and Brannon ( not counting the $120,000.00, plus, in salaries for them to ride up and down the ICW), the new truck to pull it and the $100,000.00 given to Georgia State last year. But, no need to research those illegal/improper expenditures as the 5 commissioners did not vote on them.
These are the things that the taxpayers ( except thuggies ) want to know about.
I know alot about this "land transaction" so do about 6 or 7 people that are up for re-election in Camden County. I always wondered if this issue would surface again.
If the facts of this situation are aired out it could signal a political ouster for alot of people. The white collar crimes surrounding this deal are egregious. Ask the D.A. he knows all about it. Since Johnathan is no longer employed by the Tribune & Georgian he should write a story on this. I remember hearing that he has all of the documents.
Steve Berry, Steve Berry, Never surveyed PRIOR, NO appraisal, limited warranty deed and Steve Berry Abstain, For, Abstain.
Research for above particulars...
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