Thursday, October 8, 2009

GTU coverage: "Camden balks at adding onto crowded jail."

http://jacksonville.com/news/georgia/2009-10-08/story/camden_balks_at_adding_onto_crowded_jail Now, it turns out that I got a call early this morning on this very subject (and a few other things) from Sheriff Gregory. We talked for about 30 minutes. {Side note: I just happened to look out my front window just now to see what was setting off my dog, who was also looking out the window. It was Mayor Eskridge driving by in his green pickup truck, repleat with campaign sign, slowed way down to eyeball the 3 political yard signs I have in my front yard!} There is no way I will remember all of the torrent of info he gave me, but here, I hope, are the most important parts. The current jail - which the then residents of Woodbine were all for having built right where it is - was built in '86/'87 with a capacity of 120 beds. The day it opened, 96 beds were full. The county population then was 20,000. Now, it is well over 50,000; we still have a 120 bed jail; and the jail today is housing 230 inmates, with many sleeping in the hallways on mattresses on the floor. In the current SPLOST, $3,000,000 was earmarked for jail renovations and repairs. One major repair item was all of the leaking copper water pipes encased in the thick concrete walls which needed ripping out and repairing. The estimate from a professional firm was $1.2 million. The county engineer did some research and found a better way: injecting a liquid polymer into the pipes which sealed the leaks and essentially, formed a PVC pipes system within the old copper pipes. The cost was a shade over $200,000, saving nearly $1 million. The sheriff is asking for $1.4 million for an 120 bed add-on metal building behind the existing jail to house low risk, non-violent offenders (i.e., 3rd time DUI offender who can't make bail.) Given the savings of nearly $1 million on the water pipe repairs and the balance of the $3 million originally allocated, the money is already there, he is not asking for new money from the general fund. This is all SPLOST money that's in the bank. So, you may ask, as did the commissioners, why not just wait until we can add that money to the money from the next SPLOST and build a brand new, $30 million dollar jail? Here's why. The next SPLOST will not be voted on until 2013. By the time you actually collected enough new SPLOST money to break ground on the new jail, it would be a good seven years from now before the new jail was completed. The jail population continues to grow. The chances that one or more inmates will not successfully sue the sheriff for violating minimum federal standards for housing inmates between now and then - in fact, way before then - are slim and none. When a judge rules in their favor - which would probably happen today - if a judge were hearing a complaint based upon CURRENT overcrowding, one of two things would happen. The judge could order that enough inmates be shipped out to nearby counties with excess capacity (Charlton just built a new, 350 bed facility) to lower the population in Camden to acceptable levels, or, close the Camden jail down altogether and order all inmates shipped out until a new Camden jail is completed. The current cost for room and board per "imported" inmate in Charlton is $45.00 per day. But that is just the tip of the cost iceberg. If they have a court date or their lawyer wants to meet with them in Woodbine, you have to send a CCSO deputy over to Folkston to retrieve them. I think I've hit all of the sheriff's major points. Oh, he also pointed out that the space he wants to build could easily be reconfigured internally to whatever use the county might want to put it to - along with the rest of the old jail - with perhaps a new facade, after the new jail is completed. I must say that I agree with him that kicking this can down the road until 2013 and beyond is not a viable option. Given that, and given that the SPLOST funds for his proposed solution are already in the bank, I think that it is time for the commissioners - including the ones up for reelection next year - step up to the plate and do the right thing, which in this case appears to be what the sheriff is proposing.

9 comments:

Jay Moreno said...

Note: I had to move this because it was inadvertently posted on the post about helicopters.

Anonymous said...
So what will be done to expedite the process with the Judges? Seems to me this is the solultion to the problem. Why not have a Judbe that handles expediting Camden cases their main priority. I remember Judge Harrison campaigning that if elected he would move his office to Camden County and work here full time. Was that just a vail campain promise

October 8, 2009 11:22 AM

Jay Moreno said...

I'm guessing that judge is still miffed about not getting the interior decorator and fufu decor of his choice.

This whole business about the judges is a largely overblown Berry red-herring in his ongoing feud with Sheriff Gregory.

Anonymous said...

I remember when something came up about prisoners having to be housed in another county and His Majesty Steve Berry said no way, they could not be made to house prisoners in another county. I also remember Charlton Co. having to move prisoners because a Judge said it had to be done. Why does Berry think that cannot be done here in Camden? Or is he just speaking to hear himself speak? I know for a fact that we have in the past, housed prisoners in other counties. It is very costly to do this, but, if, as Tommy said, one prisoner complains to the right person about overcrowding this county can be made to move prisoners to another facility, regardless of what Mr. Berry says. I guess some attorneys tend to forget the law when it is convenient for them. What am I saying?? Most Attorneys say whatever they want, when it is convenient for them.

melissa said...

Jay the building the sheriff proposes is a "Butler" building. Google it and then see if that monstrosity should be placed next to our grand new courthouse and commissioner building. We have spent close to 75 million dollars enhancing our county seat. Do we want to slum it up with a building like this. It belongs in a commercial park somewhere. Not in our county square.

Jay Moreno said...

Now, let me get this stright. We are faced with an unsafe ratio of inmates to jailers in a jail where about half of them can not actually be locked in cells, but sleep in the hallways. We are subject to being successfully sued any day now by one or more inmates and having to close down fully or partially and incurr the huge expense of farming out inmates to other copunties, and, you, Madam, are concerned about the AESTHETICS of the structure?

You're just jerking my chain, right?

pat said...

Jay you ignorant slut. Do you simply say to hell with everything and succumb to a knee jerk reaction because of the demands of a elected official! What is the plan when the dorm is built and we are still overcrowded? Hmmm, thats right, by gregorys very own stats, the jail is still going to be overcrowded. Now lets look at some stats from Tommy in another light. Did you know that 57 inmates (as of Monday) were in there because they were misdemeanors awaiting trial and could not afford a cash bond? Now the average fine these folks will pay is $500. By Tommys stats, it costs us $42 a day to keep these guys inhouse. So if we keep these guys 90 days at a cost of $42, and they pay a fine of $500, who wins? My tax dollars don't. There is a serious case of mismanagement happening in Woodbine. I met with Tommy 6 weeks ago and point blanked asked him what he has done to persuade the Judges to allow OR bonds. His answer, nothing. All it takes is for our elected officials to get theeir collective heads out of their asses and we could get over this problem. The same standars that Tommy cites also has a plan for counties in our situation. Their number one suggestion is that the law enforcemnet agency should have a policy in which they ticket minor drug misdemeanors rather than arresst. This allows the officer to write a ticket to the punk smoking crack rather than him being a burden to me on my dime. Jay face, Tommy is not doing what he can to solve this, he has his heels buried in the sand and is refusing to give. Also, the statement about Chris Sears being a USCG captain is a lie. He is indeed not unless he just became liscensed in the recent weeks.

Anonymous said...

This is where we are headed if something is not done quickly. We need a temp. fix until this can be put on the next splost.

http://www.ajc.com/news/north-fulton/federal-judge-gives-fulton-158062.html

Anonymous said...

why don't we build them a new holliday end express for camden prisoners only, up at the exit by I-95, hell they could even have continential breakfast for the poor sorry turds.Or we could see about BTW's hog farm,razor wire it and put the scumbags out there in tents

Jay Moreno said...

For readers to young to get that "Jay, you ignorant slut!" remark, just Google the phrase, "Jane, you ignorant slut!"
"Point / Counterpoint," an SNL spoof of an actual ligit news show with Jerry Kilpatrick and Jane Alexander, was hyterically funny.

Now, to suggest that I am a sycophnatic toady of the likes of Church Lady Wall flies in the face of all available evidence(i.e., my roles in the demise of the Brandon machine, the BTW tyrrany, etc.)

I simply listend to the facts as the sheriff presented them and came to my own conclusion that he is indeed correct. As to the alledged mismanagement, so far as I know, the sheriff does not set bail bonds amounts. Now, I understand that BTW could get low bonds for anyone whose family was large enought to deliver a lot of votes at election time. Personally, I clebrate the fact that this sheriff does not play those sleazy games. Apparently, you're not.

Do you really beleive that a high enough percentage of arrestees could be safely releaed on OR bonds to make up for the fact hat we have the sme jail capacity with a county population of over 50,000 that we had when the county population was only 20,000?

As to Sears being a USCG licensed captian, what the sheriff actaully siad was that he was a "licensed captain." So far as I know, the USCG is the only agency granting such a license, so I threw that in there.

Are you a current or former CCSO employee?