Tuesday, February 2, 2010

Could it be that Camden developers have kidnapped their kids and grand kids and threatened them with bodily harm?

That's about the only thing I can think of that would explain the truly astonishingly boneheaded decision taken by 4 out of five county commissioners tonight. The lone, dissenting voice of sanity was that of an impassioned Commissioner Steve Berry. I would tell y'all the whole sorry tale tonight but I fear I might damage the keys here on my new ergonomically correct, Microsoft keyboard. Tune in sometime tomorrow when I've cooled down. Camden Watchdogs - you do not want to miss this! Good morning. Item 2 on the agenda for last night's meeting read as follows: "Development Impact Fee Ordinance - Discussion concerning Program." That seems fairly innocuous, right? Wrong! It turns out that six local real estate developers and builders had written letters to the commissioners (each commissioner had copies of said letters) in which they apparently (I'm working on obtaining copies of the letters) whined once again about the impact fees. They apparently suggested that the impact fees, which, according to a statement made by Commissioner Keene, amount to about 1.5% of the cost of a $150,000 home, were a major factor in the turn down in housing starts in Camden County. To my amazement, no sooner had St. David, the patron saint of good ol' boys, broached the idea of suspending the impact fees than Sears, Zell, and Keene all rushed to issue statements in support of the idea. Already amazed, I was utterly flabbergasted when Commissioner Keene suggested that they they make the suspension retroactive to January 1 - of 2009! That's right, they actually intended to REFUND all of the fees they've collected to date. Naturally, in his impassioned argument against this astonishingly boneheaded idea, Commissioner Berry said that it was incredible that in these austere times, they were actually thinking about giving the fees back. St. David's response was that since the fees had been instituted in 2009, they had only collected $48,000. He said, "Why, Mr. Berry, that would not even build ten feet of road," ergo "we might as well give it back." Early on in his hopeless attempt to bring the other four to their senses, Berry said that this was the sort of thing that made him want to pull his hair out. Berry also asked them what would happen if during the suspension, some well finaced developer showed up and "took y'all up on your offer" and wanted to build 500 homes? Who would pay for the resulting infrastructure. "The taxpayers, that's who!" Soft hearted / headed Commissioner Sears likened the idiocy to "our own stimulus package." Zell pretty much said that it couldn't hurt to give it a try. If my memory serves me, Berry reminded them that in the course of studying how to enact the fees, the related expense, including hiring a consulting firm, had already cost the taxpayers $100,000. They were not impressed. In fact, Rainer had the very consultant there last night to advise them how to most easily affect the suspension. It turns out that they can simply amend the schedule of fees so that they all read zero. St. David is trying to peddle the fiction that when it comes time to re-instate the fees, it can be easily reversed. Does any sentient Camdenian actually believe that while David Rainer is in office, the fees will EVER be reinstated? At the final public comments section, I made the following comments: "Good evening commissioners. My name is Jay Moreno. I reside at 501 Victoria's Circle in St. Marys. You know, I've been watching these commission meetings pretty regularly, either in person or on cable, since I moved here in August of 1993. I've been sitting here trying to remember if I've ever seen this body take a more boneheaded decision than the one you've taken tonight regarding impact fees. While the decision to wait as long as y'all did to finally hire a true professional like Mr. Howard remains at number one, this insanity tonight is clearly a strong number two. Commissioner Berry is absolutely correct on this. I find it very curious that the agenda item reads 'Discussion concerning program.' Truth in advertising would have required it to read 'Discussion concerning suspending the program.' Y'all got away with it tonight but I can guarantee you that between my blog and a letter to the Tribune and Georgian, I will see to it that the taxpayers - including the Watchdogs - are alerted in time to let you know their feelings on this before and during the next meeting. I realize that these builders are big time supporters of some of you, but there are far more of us taxpayers than there are of them. Thank you." I'll see if I can't post the letters later today. In the meantime, please spread the word.

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

I heard some guys talking after the meeting that one man persuaded all 4 to vote on this. They said he camped out at their houses until they agreed to vote for it. Chip said after the meeting that this is the fairest thing they could do for the developers. He is so stupid that he does not realize that the developer does not pay the impact fee.

Anonymous said...

I don't usually agree with you, but this time is a different story. We have all paid inflated property taxes. Inflated to the point we may lose our house because we can't afford 300 extra dollars a month in escrow. Developers ate a large part of the problem in this county. These political figures see dollar signs when they think the developers will work miracles in places like Cumberland harbor, north river and the old mill. Look what we have now. A development not finished with a private fire dept, a contaminated site and a bunch of cleared land.

Why would anyone want to relocate here? Apparently out city and county governments are run by aliens.

Hell has officially frozen over Jay. You are right.

Anonymous said...

The homeowner is the one charged for the impact fees. The developer pays upfront but it is included in the cost of the construction. What about the taxpayers who built without a developer, do we get our impact fees back?

Anonymous said...

RETARDED!!!!! Thats all I can say after reading such a idiot thing. I bet its the local good ole boy developers. I really expected more out of Keene!

How about giving the people of your district a stimulus Charlene..... Why are you so quick to give to developers? Would it have something to do with contributions?

Anonymous said...

Jay did they approve the 60+ right of ways needed for the horsestamp road interchange?

Jay Moreno said...

Apparently, last night was just a pro-forma public hearing on closing the Horsestamp Church Road overpass during construction fo a new overpass. Tey went through the motions of passing a few comments from residents affected by the closng on to the DOT. Trust me: it will be closed. Short answer, I think that he answer to you question is no, it's still pending.

Jay Moreno said...

Of course Marion Wall, the ubiquitous idiot-for-all-ocassions, had this to say:

Marion
Kingsland, GA
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Anonymous said...

Does this mean that the developers will not have to pay for the infrastructure and all tax payers will have to pick up the tab? Isn't this the possible end results of all of this. Some one raised that question on TOPIX. The statement was some thing about a county wide screwing. This really needs to be explained. How much more can we carry?

Jay Moreno said...

It is not just "possible": it is an absolute certainty. And not only will we existing taxpayers pay for all of the infrastructure necessitated by future construction, but retroactively for any construction in the county subsequent to January 1, 2009!

Anonymous said...

Jay I hate to break this to you but the President of the Watchdogs is Bill Gross's brother-in-law. And he is involved in the real estate business himself.

Jay Moreno said...

And I hate to break this to yoyu, but it woulds be in Winston's best interest if the fees not only stayed in place but were increased.
The chances of your figuring it out are slim, but here is a suifficient clue. Winston does not build houses. He specializes in picking up homes dirt cheap from distresed sellers who are facing foreclosure. He then resells them at prices lower than new construction. Let me know when you figure it out.

Anonymous said...

Actually Jay, Winton is partners in a rather large project west of Kingsland on 40 that will have 1000 + lots. The group he is in partners with also builds the houses. So it stands to reason that he is not going to support you on this. This is the way things work in Camden. There is a power structure that will get there way no matter what the citizenry has to say about it.

Jay Moreno said...

Perhaps that is why he is about to or has already resigned as president of the Watchdogs. Were you subconsciously thinking of Winton Robbins of the Stardust Motel?

This will make for an interesting opportunity to see if the Watchdogs have "legs" as well as teeth.