The purpose of this blog is to provide the author, Jay Moreno, with an outlet to comment upon items of socio-political and socio-economic import in Camden County, Georgia and to generally satisfy a daily compulsion to write.
HISTORIC WATERFRONT, ST. MARYS, GA.
I think you will find with a quick search that we did in fact have discussion with that company some years back. The concessions they required to move in are far from what we have been willing to give other firms. No prperty tax for 25 years is just one of the many.
Why don't you do the "quick search" then give us a link to your supporting article?
Well, let's see: the unions stuck to either guns and now we have no paper mill; the Governor of Georgia stuck to his guns and we will not get a mega-mall; now all of you die-hard purists will stick to your guns and we will lose bids for industry evey time to competing cities.
Some day, when the only remaining inhabitants of Camden are well-heeled retirees and active-duty Navy, you die hards in double wides over in the Charlton County woods willl at least have the pride of knowing that you stuck to your guns.
If ANY of the dumbasses in Camden could actually negotiate a deal that brings these type of high wage earnings I believe the people would support this 100%.
EFACEC facts -- Annual revenues of more than $1.3 billion -- EFACEC Rincon is now the county's third largest employer, according to EFACEC officials. -- Rincon plant site is more than 55 acres -- Manufacturing area for Phase 1 is 225,900 square feet with 32,200 square feet for office space. Phase 2 will add 292,000 square feet of manufacturing space. -- 36 companies worked on plant construction. -- Total volume of concrete used: 17,360 m? -- Concrete thickness in heavy-load areas: 24 inches -- A net state impact of $23.75 million and an additional Effingham County impact of $39 million by 2017, according to figures from the Georgia Department of Economic Development's Global Commerce Division. -- More than 1,500 workers, including skilled assembly workers, electrical engineering specialists and suppliers, will make an impact on the state and regional economy in the coming decade, state officials report.
JROT! Jays right on target on this one! Yup we got em on that one! They ain't gettin by with paying no property tax. Oh, they ain't paying none now cause they did not move here? Well, makes no difference whether they are here or not. Just ain't right to not have them pay. I don't care if they did go someplace else. Ain't right neither to collect SPLOST and other county taxes from the workers that might have come in. Just aint right for um not to pay property taxes for 25 years. We don't just stick to our guns - we stick darn hard to our big guns.....Just aint right to give anyone those incentives. We'll just wait for the government to pay for everything like they did when the base came here. Built great schools and such with all the impact money. Darn surprised though that it ran out and now we have to pay for all the operating costs. But it still aint right to give someone a break on the property tax. The government will come through. Think we are next in line for some type of stimulus...... to get us going. It worked in California and New York and New Jersey; no reason to expect it won't work here.
So, let me get this straight: in the entire history of Gilman - and especially the years immediately before the sale to Durango - that management said to the unions "If we don't get concessions from you guys, we may go out of business?"
66 y/o male, college grad. Bachelor of General Studies with minor in political science, Armstrong Atlantic State University; post-baccalaureate teacher certification program, AASU; Georgia state certified teacher: Middle Grades; Middle Grades Social Studies; Middle Grades Language Arts; Political Science (6-12); and Economics (6-12). Currently pursuing bachelor of Science in Public Administration from College of Coastal Georgia. Navy and Vietnam veteran (Hospital Corpsman, NEC 8404). Former HMC, USNR-R. Various Navy Leadership and Management schools. Disabled, and in a wheelchair since April, 2004, A/C Guillain-Barre syndrome. Eclectic interests.
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I think you will find with a quick search that we did in fact have discussion with that company some years back. The concessions they required to move in are far from what we have been willing to give other firms. No prperty tax for 25 years is just one of the many.
Why don't you do the "quick search" then give us a link to your supporting article?
Well, let's see: the unions stuck to either guns and now we have no paper mill; the Governor of Georgia stuck to his guns and we will not get a mega-mall; now all of you die-hard purists will stick to your guns and we will lose bids for industry evey time to competing cities.
Some day, when the only remaining inhabitants of Camden are well-heeled retirees and active-duty Navy, you
die hards in double wides over in the Charlton County woods willl at least have the pride of knowing that you stuck to your guns.
If ANY of the dumbasses in Camden could actually negotiate a deal that brings these type of high wage earnings I believe the people would support this 100%.
EFACEC facts
-- Annual revenues of more than $1.3 billion
-- EFACEC Rincon is now the county's third largest employer, according to EFACEC officials.
-- Rincon plant site is more than 55 acres
-- Manufacturing area for Phase 1 is 225,900 square feet with 32,200 square feet for office space. Phase 2 will add 292,000 square feet of manufacturing space.
-- 36 companies worked on plant construction.
-- Total volume of concrete used: 17,360 m?
-- Concrete thickness in heavy-load areas: 24 inches
-- A net state impact of $23.75 million and an additional Effingham County impact of $39 million by 2017, according to figures from the Georgia Department of Economic Development's Global Commerce Division.
-- More than 1,500 workers, including skilled assembly workers, electrical engineering specialists and suppliers, will make an impact on the state and regional economy in the coming decade, state officials report.
How did the unions close the paper mills???
JROT! Jays right on target on this one! Yup we got em on that one! They ain't gettin by with paying no property tax. Oh, they ain't paying none now cause they did not move here? Well, makes no difference whether they are here or not. Just ain't right to not have them pay. I don't care if they did go someplace else. Ain't right neither to collect SPLOST and other county taxes from the workers that might have come in. Just aint right for um not to pay property taxes for 25 years. We don't just stick to our guns - we stick darn hard to our big guns.....Just aint right to give anyone those incentives. We'll just wait for the government to pay for everything like they did when the base came here. Built great schools and such with all the impact money. Darn surprised though that it ran out and now we have to pay for all the operating costs. But it still aint right to give someone a break on the property tax. The government will come through. Think we are next in line for some type of stimulus...... to get us going. It worked in California and New York and New Jersey; no reason to expect it won't work here.
By Jove, I think you've got ti! So that's what the Bubbas are holdin' out for!
So, let me get this straight: in the entire history of Gilman - and especially the years immediately
before the sale to Durango - that management said to the unions "If we don't get concessions from you guys, we may go out of business?"
Is that your story?
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