Saturday, January 16, 2010
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45 min ago I may be wrong, but IF the airport is moved to any other location, aren't all of the current business owners going to have first right of refusal at the new airport? And won't they have about the same set up at a new airport as at the old airport? Doesn't the City have to keep those folks "whole" since a move is through no fault or action of their own?
If this is the case, doesn't the maliciousness of Hase's comments not hold any water? If this is the case, can't Bird vote his conscience since he will be made whole at a new site, thereby really doesn't have anything to lose? If this is the case, isn't it apparent that Bird is voting in the best interest of the city? And if this is the case, isn't Hase pushing the way she is because somehow she is going to gain financially by an airport move, in particular to Site 1? And if this is the case, isn't her buddy Charlie Smith inline for a big pay day too?
just some random thoughts that seems to me, casts an ill light on Hase.......
Well, now, if that is the case, perhaps No Conflict Bird will release his tax returns for the last few years so that the public can calculate how many more years it would take his operation to net $2,000,000.
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Jay,
I don't quite follow your reasoning regarding the release of Byrd's tax returns. Do you thinks that they would show some nefarious plot or illegal gain?
Okay. I'll go slowly.
Councilwoman Hase reports that No Conflict Bird - before he was Councilman Bird, told her that if the city - or someone - would pay him $2,000,000, he would "go away."
That would be a euphimism for dropping his opposition to moving the airport, In other words, he was naming his price. Got it?
Now, the poster on Topix suggests that insofar as Bird and other current airport tenants would be
"made whole" by th ecity for losses incurred as a result of the move. By definition, made whole means to be put in the same financial position they likely would have been in -based upon thir average annual earnings from their respective enterprises. Still with me?
Now, if a review of Bird's tax returns shows that he makes $100,000 annually from his curent endeavors (which I doubt), he would have to work another 20 years at it to make $2,000,000.
Now, do you suppose he would rather work another 20 years at maybe $100,000 per year or retire with a $2,000,000 bankroll after being bought off bythe city or Sea Island or whoever he may have hoped to extort the money from?
If you still don't get it, perhaps you are incapable of grasping it.
The question is if this did occur as Hase has said, why did she not immediately report Bird for asking for a bribe from a public official? This smells more and more each day that goes by.
Hase is a liar, Shanahan has airport related alzheimers and you are the only one who does not see it.
Again this city looks like a joke. Another day in paradise.
OK, Jay, lets just follow you "logic" that you laid out so slowly. First Hase reported that Bird told someone that for $2 million he would "go away." You assume that is a euphemism for dropping his opposition to moving the airport. Maybe---maybe not. If someone will give me $2 million, I will go away. I will go to Vermont or Arizona or Las Vegas (for a while) or to the Bahamas for some quality SCUBA diving or Hawaii (I've never been there.
You allude to the assumption that the airport tenants would be "made whole" and from that you conclude that $2 million would represent the amount that it would take to satisfy Bird and make him whole. You go so far as to assume that, if we could prove it would take $2 million to make him whole, it would prove that he asked for that amount.
There are two problems with this assumption. First, there is no possibility that Bird clears the $100,000 annually that you calculate would justify a payoff of $2 million. A short calculation show that Bird's income from his airport property is probably very roughly $1010/month which is $12,120/year. This is nowhere near $2 million over a 20 year period.
Second, even if we were to inspect Bird's bank account and discover that his income from his airport business would equal exactly $2 million over the next 20 years, this goes nowhere toward proving that Bird actually made the request or demand for $2 million attributed to him by Hase. This is just an incidental fact.
If you are going to argue logically, you have to use FACTS that RELATE to the question and then draw a LOGICAL conclusion based on those facts.
It would appear that you are either genuinely intellectually incapable of grasping the concept or you are pretenting not to to serve your own purposes. In either event tne vast majority of readers no doubt understod it the first time. We're done.
By the way, Hase did not report that Bird said it to "someone" but to her, verbally and face-to-face.
Jay said:
"Now, do you suppose he would rather work another 20 years at maybe $100,000 per year or retire with a $2,000,000 bankroll after being bought off bythe city or Sea Island or whoever he may have hoped to extort the money from?"
Me:
I can guarantee Deborah Hase knows the answer to that question. It's the same pot thats holding her loot.
Jay said:
By the way, Hase did not report that Bird said it to "someone" but to her, verbally and face-to-face.
Me:
Why do you suppose she waited until now to go the the newspaper with this information?
For Godsake Jay!!!! You have got to be able to connect the dots on this one.
No, you consider these dots:
1. Hase is being absolutely truthful.
2. When no such $2,000,000 offer was forthcoming, Bird decided to run for office, solely for the purpose of protecting his business interests, the public interest be damned.
3. To that end he started schmoozing and literaly dancing with, singing to, and kissing all of the old gals at the Senior Citizen's Center, giving "On the Porch" interviews with employee and stooge Doug Vaught, etc., etc., all the while flashing his toothy hirsuit, con-man smile for the votes of the gullible..
4. Bird has long since been waging an anti-airport move campaign under pseudonyms on Topix as well as overtly in the T&G.
5. Bird clearly has a conflict of interst (hell, his whole campaign and election were a fraudulent conflict of interest) but votes on airport issues anyway.
6. A read of his police report on the Stanford "bomb" incident will lead one to believe that he will lie his way out of any adversity.
7. On the night that he questioned this guy Thompson before he was elected to the Airport Commission, I personally witnessed Bird chase out after the man after the meeting (he, Thompson, was talking to me outside city hall when Bird caught up to him) and try to assured him that he was not going after him during the meting (clearly, he was); that he too had been in avionics in the Army; etc., etc. The very next day, if not later that night, Bird set about discrediting the appointee in hopes of re-seating his ousted ally on the commision, Dick Rusell.
7. Now that his side lost in the elections, he is hell bent on passive-aggressive obstructionism at every turn.
8. He is justly reaping what he has sown.
Jay, I tried going to your poll and it would not come up. A friend had opened it earlier and said it was not going for your Hase gal. What is with the poll now?
Can't win them all. Keep on and the truth will really come out by Hase and the screwing she is trying to put on us tax payers.
Yes it would. As you know very well, as with every poll I try, you and others vote multiple times so as to render it useless.
Yes it would. As you know very well, as with every poll I try, you and others vote multiple times so as to render it useless. Now, you lying bastard, you've come to gloat over your despicable actions.
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