Monday, February 9, 2009
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The purpose of this blog is to provide the author, Jay Moreno, with an outlet to comment upon items of socio-political and socio-economic import in Camden County, Georgia and to generally satisfy a daily compulsion to write. HISTORIC WATERFRONT, ST. MARYS, GA.
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- Jay Moreno
- St. Marys, Georgia, United States
- 66 y/o male, college grad. Bachelor of General Studies with minor in political science, Armstrong Atlantic State University; post-baccalaureate teacher certification program, AASU; Georgia state certified teacher: Middle Grades; Middle Grades Social Studies; Middle Grades Language Arts; Political Science (6-12); and Economics (6-12). Currently pursuing bachelor of Science in Public Administration from College of Coastal Georgia. Navy and Vietnam veteran (Hospital Corpsman, NEC 8404). Former HMC, USNR-R. Various Navy Leadership and Management schools. Disabled, and in a wheelchair since April, 2004, A/C Guillain-Barre syndrome. Eclectic interests.
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I think the person will need some of both...IQ and common sense...and be well balanced...too much of either is not good...I have met many people with very high IQ's who could not bat their way out of a paper bag...gotta be balanced!
jay just the little bit of common sense that i have and reading all the things you think you have to learn. my common sense tells me i need to hire a good county atorney.
a good county manager then get good department heads and tell them the goals that we the people want to have done and by when.
see you are acting like a politician already making thing much harder than they are.
if the boc is suppose to know all that crap on your list why do we have a county mgr. and attorney? waste of money if that is so.
common sense tells me to hire good people and set a plan then work the plan. life is not that hard.
common sense will always work smart and not hard.
Jay:
On Topix they say you know the real identity of all that post on your blog. Is that true?
Absolutely not true. There is no interest on my part in knowing who they are, nor the technical know how to find out. I'm vaguely aware that there are (I think) some kind of programs that allow you to track ISP numbers - but then how do you go from there to an identity?
Now, it is true that I can distinguish certain "anonymouses" from others by virtue of certain characteristic punctuation aznd misspelling errors and general tone.
Does there come a point when I realize that I'm dealing with a nut case incurable rage over my role inthe defeat of Bill Smith, a generalized hatred of "damned outsiders" per se, and me, in particular and decide to no longer post their pathological rantings? Most assuredly. That is what the individual was referring to. And by the way, in that partcualr case, I do know who he is in real life because he has called me on the phone and insisted that we meet for lunch - which I did.
Relax - it's all part of a politically motivated campaign of disinformation and engenedering pre-election hatred for me.
Question for all readers: Given a choice between someone who simply tossed the Handbook for County Commissioners - provided to every new county commissioner in the state of Georgia - into the trash -unread - and relied only upon their "common sense" and life experiences, or someone who actually not only took the time to read and understand it cover-to cover, but did it befiore even amnnouncing, which would you rather have sitting on the CCBOC?
I appreciate the fact that you are educating yourself as much as possible for the proposed postion on the BOC. I thought after a person is elected they were then sent to UGA for further education is serving on the BOC...it makes sense to me that you would want to "bone up" on all the requirements to serve...that makes common sense to me :)
I would rather have the latter. As the formal has NOT faired very well for the taxpayers of Camden County.
I truly believe if the people understood the dire situation the two cities and county are in they would also choose the latter.
to all readers if the BOC knows all that is in hand book why not fire all department heads. keep just the elected that meets every other week and tommy gregory that
see over jail and law enforcement.
beth soles we elected see over tax laws.
we could save money on mr. green,dennis haley, mark crews,county manager,ect..
i dont care what IQ you have, if you're common sense does not take over you will think that 5 part-timers can run a county. in fairness it can but not without keeping good people in the right spots of goverment.
without a check&balance system in place all will fail look at old ccso. i blame bill and the 5 that allowed it to happen. ill do the same with tommy if the same happens.
if you dont mind please explain to me in simple terms why the plan i gave would not work.
this is general goverment you have going for you.
the common sense that was given to me tell me to spend any money as if it was my own. take ownership of it and you will make best decisions possible.
look when sandy was in. dont know how they did it but gave money back.
look at ones with splost on courthouse had money left over so the spent it.
on your last comment if you think it is a person you had lunch with why not try to call them see what they think?
Anonymous said...
I would rather have the latter. As the formal has NOT faired very well for the taxpayers of Camden County.
I truly believe if the people understood the dire situation the two cities and county are in they would also choose the latter.
February 10, 2009 9:40 AM
Where you wwrote "formal," I tak eit that you actually were thinking "former," right?
The point is that we have demonstrably NOT had commissioners who know everything in the handbook though Sandy Feller certainly came close.
How can you effectively tell whether or not the county adminsitrator is doing a bang -up job if you do not educacte yourself sufficiently to KNOW what he is supposed to be doing?
So far, I have the highest respect for Mr. Howard;s integrity, capabilities,and performance, but, as Ronaldus Magnus once famously said, "Trust, but verify!"
"on your last comment if you think it is a person you had lunch with why not try to call them see what they think?"
Because, having met you and read enough of your rantings, I know that while you are an honest and hard working fellow whose work ethic I greatly admire, you are also a person with a passive aggressive personality with most of your passive aggression aimed at folks who are the subjects of your pathologically obsessive and blinding hatred for peopel who are better educated than you and/or whom you percieve as having sprung from a higher socio-economic straturm than you did.
Calling you would serve no purpose, as your animus towards me - as a straw man for those you loathe as a class - would overpower your judgment, as it invariably does in your written ramblings.
Educating yourself on these matters is a great idea, and should be followed by anyone who wishes to run for this type of office(or chair, whatever). However, I think you are mistaken what we mean as common sense for simple knowledge. When you have educated yourself in this manner, you acquire a "common knowledge" of what is expected of you and how to conduct your self ethically, and in the best interests of the people who have elected you. The sense that should be common for you should be: a) how to treat the people who have or will vote for you, b) how to keep what will be best for the people in the front of you mind and not what might be best for you, c) a practical and "common sense" approach to how to handle situations and people in an appropriate and respectful manner. Other examples of what I refer to as common sense are based on the common knowledge one has. I work in the Ready-Mix Concrete Manufacturing industry. Having several years experience in this field, there are things that are just "common sense" to me that some people are just blind to. A servant of the people, which is what an elected official is, should have a "common sense" approach on how to treat and deal with people, tough situations, and ALWAYS KNOW THAT YOU WORK FOR US!! These are qualities your lack Jay. You have know common knowledge on how to treat anyone, handle a situation in which you are being scrutinized, or anything to do with anyone but yourself(at least that I see). To be honest with you Jay, I know you are smart. You have the brains to run the county, but lack the necessary people skills and common sense to do it appropriately. That is the ONLY problem I , and many others have with you. If you could address these issues, you would be a great servant for the people. This doesn't mean change your views and opinions on matters, just how you address them. It also doesn't mean to "butter them up". Just show people respect. Nobody will vote for someone who treats them like crap, and you certainly do that. Good luck Jay! I really mean it. Good Luck
The shibboleth that common sense and high intell;igence cannot coexist in the mind of one person is a self serving and self deluding myth perpetuated by people of average to low intelligence.
I never said I do not have "common sense": I most assuredly do. However, in addition to common sense, I have, by the luck of the genetic draw, an IQ which is quite uncommonly high. I contend that given a choice between someone of average intelligence and someone of higher intelligence, the better choice for holding public office is invariably the person of higher intelligence. This is true in virtually any endeavor. If you do not grasp this, I would commend to you an excellent book on the subject entitled "The Bell Curve."
As to how I treat people, you have no idea of what you speak - not that it really matters to you because you are simply engaged in a hateful, political, ad hominem polemic which you think has been successfully cloaked in pseudo sincerity. I think your real problem -other than some I've catalogued in a previous response -is that youy know that if elected, I would indeed treat ALL citizens equitably, irrespective of their place of birth. Being "from here" would not be an entitlement to my special favor - nor would it cause one to be treated ANY differently whatsoever. Like the overwhelming majority of native "good ol boys," you really dread the inevitable loss your "special" status."
While it is true that on my blog and in the ocassional letter-to-the-editor, I regularly skewer legitimate, "public figures" for their mis and malfeasance in public office,feasance I am quite civil, and, dare I say, polite in my everyday dealings with people, as anyone who knows me, even casually, will readily tell you.
As to my keeping what is best for the peole int he front of my mind as opposed to what is best for me, that is a rather silly platitude in my case. Think about it: I have not one living (or dead) relative in Camden County, ergo I can't be in it to habve any relatives hired. I own no business so I can't be in it to profit from doing business with the county. I have no friends whom I would consider really "close" friends and only a dozen or so casual friends (I'm not complaining - that is entirely consistent with my life-long self-sufficient nature). So, I'm not in it to feather the nest of any "good ol' boy" pals or supporters.
It's really quite simple: I have the ability to serve the public and do it exceptionally well. Moreover, I have the desire to do it. If I'm elected, I will do jsut that. If not, life will go on and I will continue to observe local politics and hold such feet to the fire as richly deserve it.
I would invite the reader to compare the tone of Thomas Green "Tripp" Casey III's last coment on my blog (back 2) to his comment 9 hours ago on TOPIX:
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Andy wrote:
Give it up Sandy you're old, tired, and lack the energy and vision to move St. Marys in the direction it needs to go. You're a Cold War relic in a new age.
Sandy has more vision in his "brown eye"(if you catch my drift) then anyone I see serving that district, or on the council in St. Mary's. By the way Andy, what have you done to help your struggling town? What gives you the right to criticize this man, whom I have much respect for? Sandy, to me, is the kind of leader we need in the BOC. Although I don't live in district 4, I think he would be a good choice. Hell, anything is better than Jay.
I stand corrected. I intended to type former not formal. I guess I should start re-reading before posting. Hopefully everyone read it understanding the typo.
thanks for the clarification. I was pretty sure that was what you meant, but had you intended "formal," that would have been a whole different meaning, i.e. in favor of the common sense argument instead of , perhaps, "formal" as in "formal education." Thanks again.
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