The purpose of this blog is to provide the author, Jay Moreno, with an outlet to comment upon items of socio-political and socio-economic import in Camden County, Georgia and to generally satisfy a daily compulsion to write.
HISTORIC WATERFRONT, ST. MARYS, GA.
Scott Henning and Matt Jordan what a joke. These two are really something else. What a lie!! He CLAIMS that he made a mistake as a SURVEYOR and built on the wrong property when in FACT he knew he was building on the wrong property. Believe me when I say it isn't easy to make such a mistake. I'm just really surprised that it went this far before being detected. He had to have inside help from the Planning Dept. This is out and out FRAUD against the taxpayers.
He wanted the piece he is located on and because he serves on the Council he thought he could just do a land swap and all would be well. So sad.......
I DO NOT believe that this was a honest mistake. What happened to building permits, who did not do their job there? I think they both knew they would get their way since both are on the council, and we all know how you scratch my back and I will scratch your's goes. They should have to remove the building and start over and the taxpayers of Woodbine should not have to spend any $$$ for their mistake. Again, I know both of them and I do not think it was a MISTAKE. Anyone need a SURVEYOR????? He might as well file bankruptcy now, who would want to hire him. HA! NOT ME!!!!
I don't know either gentleman - never heard of them before now. I guess if experienced surgeons can whack off the wrong limbs and breast, surveyors can survey the wrong land once in a while (but his own?) You have to admit, though, that the probability of this happening where one of the partners is a surveyor and BOTH are city councilmen does tend to strain credulity. The odds against? I can hear my old friend Carl Sagan saying "billions and billions-to-one." No, I did not know the late Dr. Sagan personally, but a read all of his books.
What proof do any of you have that this wasnt a mistake? You all spot off "half cocked" about something you know nothing about(imagine that). My property was surveyed by a person with over 27 years of experience. There were no lines to go off of and no set markers for them to find. Well, they got it wrong. It was corrected before we built, but they made an honest mistake. It happens. Please find the facts before you go accusing people. No, I dont know either of these gentlemen, but I know that mistakes are made by everyone in their profession, no matter what profession that may be. It happens, and that is a fact. Ask yourself, what did they have to gain, especially if they plan to eat all of the costs involved in the mistake. Personally, after researching the plots, I dont see any gain to them at all. Only a loss. But that is my humble opinion based on what I could find. And yes, the lots look a lot alike in that area. If the City didnt recognize it before the building was built, along with the county who has to sign off on these permits, there were several mistakes made by several different people. Do your research people, and make an objective decision based on that. After what happened with the survey of my property, I am sure this could have been a simple mistake. After all, it has happened to me personally.
I would be more inclined to believe that it was caused by Smith blood running somewhere through his vains rather than believing it was an honest mistake.
My question is, who sold them the property to start with? Do you think the seller did not know that the property he sold to these two men was not his property? I don't think so. I think the City Attorney came up with the proper solution and Henning and Jordan should pay the costs of going to court. It is their mistake and it should not fall back on the city taxpayers to pay for the solution of this mess. By the way, Henning should not be blamed for being Smith's nephew.
If youy build on someone elses property and it is detected by the property owner before seven years elapse, the structure then belongs to the property owner.
I said all of that to say the City of Woodbine should tell these two guys thank you for the building.
For this poster who said this was a honest mistake. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!
Follow the advice of the City Attorney thats what the taxpayers pay him for.
I agree that this is no way should cast the taxpayers anything. But, I don't see how this would benefit the Henjo company in any way. The land they built on is swampy, and the lot they were supposed to build on is not near as low. I drive by there quite often, and the dirt they hauled into the lot was enough to raise the elevation of my whole seven acres. So, I ask you, what was the reason for this not being a mistake. What do the two have to gain from this? How could they profit from this after eating all of the costs as they say they will? From an objective point of view, it is an embarrassing mistake made. If you have proof that it wasn't, then share it. From what I see, they are getting the short end of the deal either way, which is fine because it is their screw up. I can almost certainly say that this was not what they wanted to happen. But, I am sure that you people have never made a mistake in your lives. It sad how you blame blame blame. Sounds like a whole bunch of people drunk off the Rick Rodgers koolaid.
The thing which makes me think it was not an innocent mistake is that Henning & Jordan asked the state (hwy 17 is a state road) if they could put a culvert & drive into the property before they started building. The state told them no because their property was too close to the driveway into the city shop and they would have to negotiate with the city for access using the city shop driveway. But, the driveway into the next lot down the road (city's property) was far enough away from the city shop drive that they could put in a culvert/drive way. They did put the driveway in to "their" new lot. Bill Smith was a mentor to these two. If memory serves correctly, the building site was filled in and the building put up before Uncle Bill got whipped in Nov.
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Scott Henning and Matt Jordan what a joke. These two are really something else. What a lie!! He CLAIMS that he made a mistake as a SURVEYOR and built on the wrong property when in FACT he knew he was building on the wrong property. Believe me when I say it isn't easy to make such a mistake. I'm just really surprised that it went this far before being detected. He had to have inside help from the Planning Dept. This is out and out FRAUD against the taxpayers.
He wanted the piece he is located on and because he serves on the Council he thought he could just do a land swap and all would be well. So sad.......
I DO NOT believe that this was a honest mistake. What happened to building permits, who did not do their job there? I think they both knew they would get their way since both are on the council, and we all know how you scratch my back and I will scratch your's goes. They should have to remove the building and start over and the taxpayers of Woodbine should not have to spend any $$$ for their mistake. Again, I know both of them and I do not think it was a MISTAKE.
Anyone need a SURVEYOR????? He might as well file bankruptcy now, who would want to hire him. HA! NOT ME!!!!
I don't know either gentleman - never heard of them before now. I guess if experienced surgeons can whack off the wrong limbs and breast, surveyors can survey the wrong land once in a while (but his own?) You have to admit, though, that the probability of this happening where one of the partners is a surveyor and BOTH are city councilmen does tend to strain credulity. The odds against? I can hear my old friend Carl Sagan saying "billions and billions-to-one." No, I did not know the late Dr. Sagan personally, but a read all of his books.
Jay,
One of the two mentioned Scott Henning I believe is a relative of no other than Bill Smith. I am sure this was no mistake.
Rebel Dawg
What proof do any of you have that this wasnt a mistake? You all spot off "half cocked" about something you know nothing about(imagine that). My property was surveyed by a person with over 27 years of experience. There were no lines to go off of and no set markers for them to find. Well, they got it wrong. It was corrected before we built, but they made an honest mistake. It happens. Please find the facts before you go accusing people. No, I dont know either of these gentlemen, but I know that mistakes are made by everyone in their profession, no matter what profession that may be. It happens, and that is a fact. Ask yourself, what did they have to gain, especially if they plan to eat all of the costs involved in the mistake. Personally, after researching the plots, I dont see any gain to them at all. Only a loss. But that is my humble opinion based on what I could find. And yes, the lots look a lot alike in that area. If the City didnt recognize it before the building was built, along with the county who has to sign off on these permits, there were several mistakes made by several different people. Do your research people, and make an objective decision based on that. After what happened with the survey of my property, I am sure this could have been a simple mistake. After all, it has happened to me personally.
Church Lady, is that you?
I would be more inclined to believe that it was caused by Smith blood running somewhere through his vains rather than believing it was an honest mistake.
No numbnuts, not even close. Just a person that thinks from all angles, which is more than most of your readers can say.
My question is, who sold them the property to start with? Do you think the seller did not know that the property he sold to these two men was not his property? I don't think so.
I think the City Attorney came up with the proper solution and Henning and Jordan should pay the costs of going to court. It is their mistake and it should not fall back on the city taxpayers to pay for the solution of this mess.
By the way, Henning should not be blamed for being Smith's nephew.
If youy build on someone elses property and it is detected by the property owner before seven years elapse, the structure then belongs to the property owner.
I said all of that to say the City of Woodbine should tell these two guys thank you for the building.
For this poster who said this was a honest mistake. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!
Follow the advice of the City Attorney thats what the taxpayers pay him for.
I agree that this is no way should cast the taxpayers anything. But, I don't see how this would benefit the Henjo company in any way. The land they built on is swampy, and the lot they were supposed to build on is not near as low. I drive by there quite often, and the dirt they hauled into the lot was enough to raise the elevation of my whole seven acres. So, I ask you, what was the reason for this not being a mistake. What do the two have to gain from this? How could they profit from this after eating all of the costs as they say they will? From an objective point of view, it is an embarrassing mistake made. If you have proof that it wasn't, then share it. From what I see, they are getting the short end of the deal either way, which is fine because it is their screw up. I can almost certainly say that this was not what they wanted to happen. But, I am sure that you people have never made a mistake in your lives. It sad how you blame blame blame. Sounds like a whole bunch of people drunk off the Rick Rodgers koolaid.
The thing which makes me think it was not an innocent mistake is that Henning & Jordan asked the state (hwy 17 is a state road) if they could put a culvert & drive into the property before they started building. The state told them no because their property was too close to the driveway into the city shop and they would have to negotiate with the city for access using the city shop driveway.
But, the driveway into the next lot down the road (city's property) was far enough away from the city shop drive that they could put in a culvert/drive way. They did put the driveway in to "their" new lot.
Bill Smith was a mentor to these two. If memory serves correctly, the building site was filled in and the building put up before Uncle Bill got whipped in Nov.
Very interesting inded! Brings to mind the old saying, "Sometimes it's easier to ask forgiveness than to ask permission."
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