Wednesday, October 14, 2009

Bill Deloughy's campaign website.

http://www.billdeloughy.com/ I note with interest that he has not only addressed the airport issue but several others as well, AND encourages voters to keep checking back as he will address more issues in the coming days. By comparison, the other campaign blogs / websites have been one-shot-wonders so far.

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

I too am disappointed that the candidates have not kept their web sites and blogs active. Only time will tell if Deloughy does any better.

Anonymous said...

I'll tell you what disappoints me. I wrote to Cyphers and asked for more personal information on his web site. He ignored the request. Deloughy has gone one worse. These guys are scared to death that they will be labeled "outsiders" if they put where they're from, what their business experience is, and something about their family. So far our sleepy fumnbling incumbent mayor will get my vote. At least I know his background.

Jay Moreno said...

Let me ask you to do some very serious and honest introspection here. We know, by virtue of the fact that he was qualified by the city clerk and the probate judge, that he is an American citizen who has resided in St. Marys at least the required minimum of one year and is a registered voter.

Now, tell me, of what probitive value would knowing where he "is from" be in helping you take your choice of candidates for mayor? Would knowing where in America he is from make you more or less likely to vote for him. Yes, or you would not want to know - be honest! Why the hell should where a fellow American is from matter as to his qualifications? He's told you what his professional experience was. What good would knowing the name of the specific company or companies he worked for do you? How would it be probitive?

Why should his family matter? Suppose Charles Mansnon was his half-brother? Would that tell you anything meaningful about him? No kids or 20? What the hell is the difference with reference to his suitability for the position he's running for?

And finally, please explain to the rest of us, particularly "damned outsiders" such as I, why in the hell you would prefer a "sleepy, fumbling, incumnbent mayor" whose "background" you know over Bill Deloghy who, assumning he was not a Mafia kingpin, was of sufficient value to one or more major corporations to be able to retire at a relatively young age and live comfortably ever after at, dare I say it, Osprey Cove?

Does any part of you position now seem even remotely rational in retrospect? Aren't yuo really lookomg for more hooks to hang your parochial, xenophobic, old- tribe prejudices on?

Anonymous said...

"I'll tell you what disappoints me. I wrote to Cyphers and asked for more personal information on his web site. He ignored the request. Deloughy has gone one worse. These guys are scared to death that they will be labeled "outsiders" if they put where they're from, what their business experience is, and something about their family. So far our sleepy fumnbling incumbent mayor will get my vote. At least I know his background."

Is that what is important for you?? If they are not from here, thier family status, and business experience? That is a heck of a way to judge a candidate, don't you think? How about where they stand on issues? Where they are from is your number one concern. No wonder St. Marys get idiots elected. The voters are more concerned with the local yocals running then folks who could make change. Sandy Feller, I understand your concerns but other than that, give me a break.

Anonymous #23

Jay Moreno said...

Bravo.

I would hope that when the T&G sends out their candidate questionnaires this year, they do not ask candidates their marital status, religious affiliation, civic club memberships, and, for damned sure, where they are from! If asked them to do so before. Moreover, I would hope that all candidates will refrain from providing said information, asked for or not. It can only serve to promote bigotry of one kind or another and is of absolutely no probitive value to a voter other than to facilitate exercising his particular form or forms of mindless bigotry.

Anonymous said...

I want to know everything about the candidate who gets my vote. Yeah, all that stuff matters. Nothing wrong with being an educated voter.

Jay Moreno said...

Well, where do you draw the line. How about a candidate's favorite sexual position? Would that help you make a decision?

Let's take the Weaver / Howell race, for example.

He's from here, she's not. So? Tell how that would - or should influence your vote. Clearly, it would, otherwise you would not give a damn about knowing such a detail.

Anonymous said...

Jay,

I agree. We seem to concentrate way too much on personal details and not enough on real qualifications.

It doesn't matter if a candidate is from here or there. And it really doesn't matter what, if any, church he or she attends.

I would love it if every candidate refused to answer irrelivent and irelivant questions.

Jay Moreno said...

Thnaks. You know, I was thinking more about this last night.

Suppose you found yourself in an election as written by Rod Sterling. It's helpd in a land where the only information allowed to be published is the candidates' places of birth, date of arrival in the political jurisdiction, and religious affiliation.

My question is, in the abscence of any other information whatsoever, how would you make an intellignet decision based soley upon those data? I submit that the only possible value of those data is to appeal not to logic, but to prejudices.

Well, if that is true in the abscence of genuinely probitive data, why would those data be of any use in the presence of full disclosure of candidate positions, education, etc.? To say that on the one hand they would not but on the other they would is utterly illogical. Yet, that is exactly the position than many - especially the "locals" - take over and over again.

Anonymous said...

If a peson is seeking a public office EVERYONE that they're soliciting a vote from has the right to have access to this very basic information. If a person has secrets or remorse about putting such frivolous information out, maybe public office is'nt for that person.

Jay Moreno said...

okay, if you really beleive that, then you should be able to defend your position. Let's take it one step at a time.

Situation 1: There are two candidates running for the same post. All you know so far is that one was born and reared in St. Marys, GA, the other in New York City.

Why don't you tell us how that would effect your vote in this race so far? Please, tell us your thought process as to how you would use this information to favor one over the other.

Anonymous said...

The personal data helps make up a composite of a candidate. I think you just like to argue.

Jay Moreno said...

No, the fact is that no matter how hard you tried, you could not come up with an answer tothat question which did not make you sound like a parochial bigot.

Tthat realization is a major step forward. The next is when you can come to accept that your intention to choose or disqualify a candidate on such a non-issue as whre he or she is from means that , at least with to regards narrow, xenophobic, parochialism you actually are a bigot.

Anonymous said...

The personal data helps make up a composite of a candidate. I think you just like to argue.

I think that you are an idiot.

I am not trying to argue, but please answer the following few yes/no questions.

1. Does it matter where a candidate is originally from?

2. Does it matter what their Marital status is?

3. Does it matter if they have kids?

4. Does it matter what religion they are?

5. Does it matter how old or young they are?

If you answer yes to any of these questions, I would agree with Jay that you are a bigot, and if you were a professional, violating many federal laws concerning fair housing, as well as other issues.

Anonymous #23

Anonymous said...

Commenting here is like trying to reason with a woman or negotiate with a terrorist. You're right, I am an idiot....for thinking I could engage in intelligent dialog.

Anonymous said...

The thing is no one else that matters shares your sentiments. Therefore when seeking office at the local, state or national level these very basic questions are asked.

Jay Moreno said...

Given your apparent bigotry, your misogyny comes as no surprise. I'm sure that most readers will recognize, Sir or Madam, that, in fact, it was you who could not hold up your end of an intellignet conversation.

While it may be true - unfortunately - that one cannot help but be exposed to completely irrelevant details of a candidate's CV which are only useful as hooks upon which to anchor one's particular bigoted prejudices, it is nonetheless the individual voter's responsibility to winnow those out of the selction process. Unless, of course, one is a bigot and quite happily so.

Anonymous said...

Hey Jay,

I just check Mr. Deloughy's web site. It hasn't changed since it was created. And there is no way to enter into a discussion with him on his site. So much for our hopes that M. Deloughy will keep his site active.

Jay Moreno said...

Man, you are a devastatingly effective operative. Hang in there: Carville and Begalla will be retiring before long.